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Ugo Bardi's avatar

I am sorry, Anastassia, but I have to disagree with your interpretation. Not that chatGPT is wrong, but what should count is not the total number of people living in cities, but -- if anything -- how densely populated cities are. And, in our times, cities are less dense than they were in -- say -- Medieval times. Humans have been living in densely packed towns from Sumerian times, but that didn't prevent them from reproducing. Calhoun experiments, in my opinion, are not applicable to humans. Mice do not live in cities, never did. We, instead, have been living in cities for 5000 years, at least. Anyway, there is a whole chapter on Calhoun experiment in my upcoming book "The End of Population Growth" -- I'll cite your results!

Steve  Bull's avatar

Extremely interesting read, thank you for posting.

While reading I couldn't help but think of William Catton Jr.'s argument in Overshoot that when a species is in ecological overshoot (that I would argue humans seem to be in), their fertility rates are negatively impacted due to various environmental stressors--'pollution' and 'urbanisation' being two of these.

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