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Ali Bin Shahid's avatar

Anastassia, congratulations on the paper. The steam-engine framing is the ground I worked through in Regenesis #141 in early 2025, in a long back-and-forth with Alpha Lo and Peter Bunyard, and then in the paper Peter, Rob de Laet and I published, "In Defence of the Biotic Pump" (J. Atmos. Sci. Res. 8(1), 2025). We came at it from Newcomen and Watt and from Peter's chamber experiments rather than from the thermodynamics, and your contribution [b] is the formal version of what those experiments show: condensation energy tracks measured airflow.

Where our reading diverges is on latent heat. The engine and the chamber make a local claim. At the condensation site the latent heat has to leave, or the pressure drop never forms and the piston stalls. Your third story makes a different move, granting the temperature structure aloft a cooperative role that holds the lower work in place against the return flow. The question that raises for me is whether that role quietly hands the steering back to differential heating, the driver CIAD was built to displace. If temperature contrasts are what keep the rain-driven generation from being undone aloft, how much of the circulation is condensation still claiming?

There is a second gap the framing does not reach. What happens to [b] when longwave is trapped aloft, by cirrus or by stratospheric injection, and the radiative cooling that condensation needs is suppressed. Helpful temperature structure and condensation-suppressing trapped heat are not obviously the same thing, and in that second case the engine stalls. I raised this in #141 and it still has no home in the thermodynamics.

Either way, the thermodynamics you have put under CIAD was the missing piece, and really happy to see it.

Looking forward to the Siberia posts.

Theodore Rethers's avatar

So because the area under solar radiation and therefore evaporation driven atmospheric moisture expansion is so much bigger than rain fall concentration this explains the expansion contraction wind driven circulation especially as thermal loss of water vapor is associated with altitude cooling and distributed broadly and therefore not all associated with latent heat release. So the discrepancy of heat release at altitude cooling before latent heat release due to condensation allows the biotic pump wind driven mechanism. Therefore day and nighttime atmospheric temperatures would also help drive the system and bioaerosol concentrations along with evaporation intensity to create rainfall activation at different temperatures can help pinpoint where this concentration will activate. (all other things being equal)

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